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we're here because we don't buy into the

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tired of the mundane passionless careers

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we've been shuffled into as a result of

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this orchestrated debt based system of

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rule and the stranglehold on education

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entertainment by cold soulless

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corporations people yes we are

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frustrated yes we are tired and we

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reject the pre-approved tranquilizers

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that are monday night football and a

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nice cold Budweiser we have to stop

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hiding stop hiding behind the headphones

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in the cherry popper 420 username let

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the world see that the resistance is

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strong in society is changing there was

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a time to be anonymous at that time is

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past and so the higher side chats would

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like to present conspiracies as the

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dawning of this new paradigm in the

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uniform of the revolution because bold

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fashion should mean more than some

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celebrity meat dress or Atlanta sleeping

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flowing in spirit ease redefines bold

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fashion as having the balls to reject

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socially uncomfortable and unpopular

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truths from your radiant chest all

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bugging day it's beer t's dot net let

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them know that you know both designs for

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hello again our side shatters from San

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Diego drinkin little drink smoke a

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little smoke I'm Greg Karl would the

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pillar of health and let me tell you

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people lately I've been feeling a bit

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hypocritical because I'll debate the

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potential damages the chemtrails

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vaccines and body scanners but I'll turn

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around and eat fast food seven days a

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week I'll complain about fluoride in the

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tap water but I'll slam an energy drink

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every morning before i go into work i

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preach about the evils of monsanto and

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the risk of genetically modified crops

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when nothing i eat on a daily basis

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resembles a [\h__\h] crop well ladies and

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gentlemen it's time to stop playing the

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blame game and let's ask ourselves is

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the New World Order really doing any

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more harm to us than we're doing to

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ourselves because I think some of us

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have been making excuses for far too

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long and today's guest dr. Matt member

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is tired of our [\h__\h] dr. member is a

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practicing radiation oncologist and the

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past president of the Georgia Society of

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Clinical Oncology and with his co-author

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yoga instructor Heather Reed they have

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written sustainable wellness and

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integrative approach to transform your

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mind body and spirit doctor member how

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are you did well well I could say I was

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doing well but we both know I'm line

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after that intro and so yeah as you know

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I usually focus on conspiracy in the

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paranormal but I get some of my guests

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from new page books and when they told

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me about sustainable wellness I thought

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it might be a good positive change of

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pace so why don't you tell the people a

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bit about your medical background and

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miss Reed's background and hi you two

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came together to write this book well I

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was formally trained as a physician at

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the University of Virginia and did my

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radiation oncology training at

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wake forest and winston-salem North

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Carolina and throughout my whole career

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I've always been interested in thought

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that medicine should really approach not

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just the person and the disease that

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person has but also look at the whole

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person not just look at the illness but

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look at the person's mental emotional

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status their their physical status

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outside of the disease what's going on

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with things like their nutrition and

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their ability to be active and use all

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forms of therapy that are available not

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conventional therapies and so I did a

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fellowship after I was out practicing as

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radiation oncologist did a fellowship

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with dr. Andrew Weil at the University

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of Arizona the program for integrative

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medicine and in that program really

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found a good number of other physicians

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that felt the same way that I did and

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very fortunate at that time to be one of

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the first oncologists to go through that

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type of program and actually wrote an

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academic textbook after getting out of

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it called integrative oncology

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principles and practice and it basically

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examined ways to integrate different

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modalities into the cancer care process

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a group in California called common weal

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and common weal at that time had made a

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name for itself on Bill Moyers healing

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in the mind and what they found was that

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they would put people through these

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week-long retreat and they'd sometimes

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would have remarkable changes in their

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health status so cancer would regress

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their ability to get it out get up and

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around would change tremendously and

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that really showed the link between

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these that type of approach and the

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mind-body interaction and how could I

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how it could have an effect on disease

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and illness and health and so I went out

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there to learn how to run these retreats

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and groups for my cancer patients as

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well as for physicians in order to help

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physicians stay connected to their

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calling to serve people as a part of the

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medical profession so once I did that

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the yoga instructor

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a common will actually new Heather had

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taught Heather and Heather back at that

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time lived near the Atlanta area which

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is near where I lived in Rome Georgia

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which is northwest atlanta and so the

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two of us hooked up and started running

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these retreats and gradually that melded

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into doing a group sessions that

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whenever eight-week period of time and

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and over time the folks that we came to

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bet the retreats and the group's kept

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saying gosh would you please you know

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put something out so that we can have

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something to take with us after these

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retreats and groups so that we can

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sustain this practice and that's how the

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book came about nice um let me ask you

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stuff similar before it seems pretty

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miraculous to think that you know cancer

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would regress that's something that's a

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huge concern probably to anyone in their

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20s and 30s right now just it's kind of

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like spinning the wheel which type

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you're going to get because something's

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going to happen it just seems like it's

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so rampant but what are they doing

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differently on these retreats

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specifically that you know almost seems

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to surpass the results of chemotherapy

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standpoint of surpassing the results of

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conventional therapies chemotherapy

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radiation and surgery are the kind of

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big three conventional therapies and

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we're not trying to get rid of those you

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is by a guy named Ken Wilber and he

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wrote a book called a brief history of

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everything and in that book he defines

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what integrated systems really need to

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look like and an integrated system as a

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whole system so what it does is it both

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transcends the old processes as well as

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well as includes them so an integrative

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medicine approach will transcend the use

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of only chemotherapy radiation and

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surgery which were pretty much just

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the healing capacities of the individual

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important than the tool then there are a

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ton of tools that are out there that

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really take the individual to actually

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apply them in order for them to work and

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ingredient in any kind of retreat or

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group that we do and really the first

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step that we focus on in the book is

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learning how to stop and as a good

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red-blooded American physician that is

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type A and grew up one the score high on

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sats and make it through high school and

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do good on my end cats and get out and

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vital part because when when when

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someone learns how to stop all of a

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sudden they can learn how to become

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again something that is a lot of times

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things that we look to external to calm

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us whatever those externals might be

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substances or lifestyle types of habits

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commis being able to actually stop and

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calm ourselves in and of ourselves and

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then we're able to stop and come all of

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a sudden we're able to be at rest and

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approaching the work of healing and

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another this is another word they don't

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was in medical school I kind of father

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that is being secondary to caring you

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know like healing is kind of well you

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know what does that mean exactly people

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throw the word around a lot like you

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know heal the world and no it's such a

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healing practice and so forth and so

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it's got this flowery kind of

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connotation and always did for me and

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Levine he was an individual who like to

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work with people when they're in the

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death and dying situation

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he was an incredibly thoughtful

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individual and so he said you know

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better feel for how to serve this type

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of person is to go through the

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experience myself of course he wanted to

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still be alive after all right and so he

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said well okay I'm just gonna he had a

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wife that worked with him to do a lot of

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these this stuff and she's wonderful as

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well and so they said okay we're going

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to die today is November November 15

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so we're going to actually live

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consciously over the next year thinking

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we just have one year to live because

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that's kind of you hear that a lot while

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he's got a year to live yeah and so he

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did that and then he wrote a book that's

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appropriately named a year to live and

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it's an awesome book i would highly

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recommend it to anybody and so in the

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first part of that book he was reading

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along and all of a sudden this this

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sentence just struck me Connor right

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between the eyes and then it basically

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said if there is a single definition of

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healing it is to look with mercy and

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awareness at those pains both mental and

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physical that we have dismissed in

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judgment and dismay and I was like

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that's it wow that is heavy yeah it is

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and it's that's difficult work it's and

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there's nothing flowery about that and

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so isn't it better it struck me as well

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isn't it better and isn't it even

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necessary to do that kind of work in a

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place where we're rested and so how do

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we get rested by learning how to stop by

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learning how to calm by learning how to

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rest and still have all of our faculties

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about us so we can do work that before

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we just said you know what I'd rather

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not deal with that I'd rather just put

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it under the rug put it in the closet

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leave it somewhere and it'll take care

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of itself and so what I've seen is

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through that process and my hypothesis

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as to why these types of retreats this

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type of work is able to basically help

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to guide people and help people to find

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things inside of themselves that they

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never knew were there and to make

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changes that they never thought they

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could is because what happens when we're

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able to stop and common rest and do that

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sometimes difficult work if he

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all of a sudden that all the energy we

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had to use that the kind of resistance

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we had to keep up those blocks that we

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had to place two different experiences

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the different parts of our past or our

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life or just even things that reminded

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of us not all of a sudden a new

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perspective can take place and that all

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that energy can be freed up and so the

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wonderful quote I loved it that cost

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sums it up is that the greatest journey

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is not to see distant vistas the

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greatest journey is to see things with

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new eyes and that's what this type of

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wound brains it brings a ability to look

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at your own life to look at your own

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situation to look at the past to look

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towards the future and to actually be

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right here right now while you're doing

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that and to see it all as though you

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never saw it before so that type of

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approach that that building and

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cultivating awareness approach is a

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unbelievable ingredient it's the number

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one ingredient to healing to the work of

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healing and healing is very powerful

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right I mean there's so little emphasis

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on any type of real prevention or real

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healthy living it's just kind of like

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you know let the chips fall where they

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may and then we probably got something

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that'll make you feel a little bit

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better no and but it's hard to learn to

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stop because there you know there's no

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money in that we don't get paid to stop

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um it seems like this this book in this

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I mean even program because it extends

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beyond the book is it is an integrative

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approach but it seems like it would take

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a lot of time how can we better

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integrate this type of lifestyle into

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the 925 corporate framework that a lot

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of us are dealing with that's that's a

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wonderful question and we hear that all

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the time and I live that myself you know

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I get up in the morning I'm you know go

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to treat doesn't take care of my cancer

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patients I do radiation I've been doing

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math now for about 20 years and no

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system is practical unless it actually

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can function in the day-to-day world and

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so

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the the key to integrating this you know

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because I think you hit on two different

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pieces there that this is a book that

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talks about an integrative approach so

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the integrative approach is one that can

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combine lots of different tools and we

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know that those tools can work and work

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in specific individuals but unless you

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can integrate integrate it into your

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life unless it can be integrated then it

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really doesn't work does it so so the

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the key in my mind is is thinking about

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this from the standpoint of first

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cultivating awareness that's really the

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first step in this type of approach and

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cultivating awareness doesn't take an

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hour sitting on a cushion or 30 minutes

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or 15 minutes or 10 minutes or even five

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minutes or one it just takes one moment

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and that moment is the only moment that

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you can be alive in that moment just

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happens to be right now and so finding

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the key is finding a way to bring

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yourself to right here and right now

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such that you're not constantly

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ruminating about the past or you're not

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constantly planning for the future just

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that you're right here and right now

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even if it's just for one single moment

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and so one tool that I really like to

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use for that is to focus on what's going

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on in the body for that one moment and

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there are lots of different ways you can

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do that my favorite way of doing it is

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to focus on my breath because I know my

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breath can only exist right here it can

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exist I can't experience it in the past

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I can experience it in the future I can

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only experience it right now and I know

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it's going to be with me and to those

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which has been with me since the second

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I was born it will be with me till the

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second that I die and so anytime that I

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want to any moment even for a single

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breath which takes a few seconds to

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breathe in and breathe out I can focus

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bring my focus bring my attention to

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this present moment and all of a sudden

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when we bring when I bring my attention

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to this present moment it's a lot easier

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to then be with whatever's going on that

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gives me that little teeny practice of

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being able to stop you know stop the

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momentum of the day stop the momentum of

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my thoughts and my concerns and my

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worries are my fears and just be right

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here right now so it is there are

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practical tools that you can use to do

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that and for me the most important one

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is being able to stop and focus on my

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breath hmm it seems like a you know a

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way to start getting into the mindset of

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meditation really know yeah absolutely

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absolutely that's just that's another

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thing that's just completely foreign to

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me and I again I blame not having the

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time but that's probably just scapegoat

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you know for laziness well I don't think

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it's laziness I mean I do laziness is

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when you know about something and you

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don't necessarily do this because these

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have other thoughts or concerns but you

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know unfortunately we aren't taught in

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our culture to learn how to stop you

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know that's that's part of our cultural

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practice and you know schools don't

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generally teach most schools don't

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generally teach children to meditate you

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know we're taught to we're generally

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taught to the test members a so-and-so

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memorization recurred station that's how

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we're taught and so finding ways to stop

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there's not a course of you know

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stopping 101 and so so that's really

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been where I think if you look at the

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way our culture is moving if you look at

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the popularity of let's say mindfulness

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based stress reduction which is one of

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the bigger practices out there to learn

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how to bring focus to the present moment

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that is really catching on tremendously

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and in our culture and I think it's

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because there's been this lack of

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emphasis on learning how to stop this

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constant kind of striving forward so

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there's some great resources out there

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concerning how to do it our book

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presents some really very practical

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simple tools we call yoga bits Heather

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came up at that term and uses it in

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class and in her teaching to just

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represent simple things that you can do

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during a day like she talks about a

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practice where another thing that most

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folks have is our hands right so we can

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instead of just focusing on the breath

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coming in and coming out in our belly or

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at the nose we can you can use your

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hands and just count out and just follow

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your breath so counting one breath and

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then touching the pointer finger than

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one breast and touching the middle

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finger one breast and touching the ring

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finger one breast and touching the pinky

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and just going through that progression

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with both hands and so you know

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basically most people breathe about 12

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times a minute and so if you do that for

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eight breaths then you've got about 45

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seconds or so of of basically focusing

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on one thing only and that one thing is

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in this present moment and what happens

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when you're able to look at that and do

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that you kind of build the ability to

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focus such that the whatever's going on

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in the moment is not the be-all and

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end-all and so it kind of changes the

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way your brain actually works it changes

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the pathways by which your your brain

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processes information hmmm well let me

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ask you outside of learning to stop I

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mean since you do have a pretty

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traditional medical background and

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education you know where else do you

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think it is that the American philosophy

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to medicine and health is missing the

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mark well I think ultimately the the way

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it's evolving over time you know it's

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evolved from something that's very

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technology and procedure focused to

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being more relationship centered so that

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again the physician is not the the main

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purveyor of something trying to fix

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what's broken or trying to help somebody

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that's weaker it's more of a partnership

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where we're trying to serve and so

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service can only take place on the level

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of a shared humanity and I think

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medicine is moving toward that medicine

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is also moving toward including things

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that are as simple as what we eat how we

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move how we manage stress in our life

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how we how we look at what we're all

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tamika now twitch that's what we call

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our spirituality what's our ultimate

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concern and so then also looking at kind

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of what Cass 'it's the person with the

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illness or the patient brings to the

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table just that word patient is a good

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example of how how the relationship is

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already set up the word patient comes

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from a Latin word that means submissive

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sufferer and so we're already kind of

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set up to be yeah and so in order to

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really move medicine forward and as

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medicine does move forward what we're

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seeing is that people are not

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submissively suffering anymore they're

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becoming responsibly part responsible

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participants in their care and that's

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that's a big that's the next step that's

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that's the next whole level that's going

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to we're not going to get rid of the

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technologies and procedures because

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they're good I mean those are good

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things we can use those but we're going

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to expand upon it so that that provider

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procedure set centric type of field

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that's focused on healing or helping and

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fixing muse walk towards one that's

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relationship centered and focused on

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service since you do have a background

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radiation I've heard from some people

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who prefer like holistic approaches to

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cancer I've heard them describe

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radiation as a method that just tries to

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kill the two kill the cancer before it

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kills the host you know as kind of

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saying like it's a it pretty much makes

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you sick entirely and it you know kind

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of destroys your body and in other ways

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and this is just you know I have I'm

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completely ignorant so it's hard for me

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to know who to believe because everyone

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has an agenda that holistic people just

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want to demonize the conventional but

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you seem to toe the line in the middle

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yeah so I mean I think that's I would

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say if you look at the evolution of all

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these things the basically 20 years ago

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there was kind of like holistic medicine

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which was its own will feel more or less

544
00:23:22,210 --> 00:23:20,360
and then there was conventional medicine

545
00:23:24,490 --> 00:23:22,220
and then eventually what happened was

546
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:24,500
there was alternative medicine and then

547
00:23:28,750 --> 00:23:27,170
there was conventional medicine and then

548
00:23:30,490 --> 00:23:28,760
we started saying well no it's not just

549
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:30,500
alternative there's complementary and

550
00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:32,090
alternative medicine and that had a nice

551
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:34,370
little moniker to its anything in

552
00:23:37,210 --> 00:23:35,810
medicine that's worth its weight will

553
00:23:38,710 --> 00:23:37,220
have a little moniker you know so it was

554
00:23:41,260 --> 00:23:38,720
called cam and all of a sudden people

555
00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:41,270
could research cam there was a national

556
00:23:44,740 --> 00:23:43,130
center n cam national center for

557
00:23:47,500 --> 00:23:44,750
complementary alternative medicine to

558
00:23:50,020 --> 00:23:47,510
the NCI and so then complement

559
00:23:52,540 --> 00:23:50,030
alternative medicine kind of became more

560
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:52,550
integrative medicine so looking at what

561
00:23:56,980 --> 00:23:54,650
works regardless of what is where Claire

562
00:23:59,440 --> 00:23:56,990
came from and then trying to integrate

563
00:24:01,510 --> 00:23:59,450
it into the into the system and that's

564
00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:01,520
really where we are right now and in

565
00:24:06,490 --> 00:24:04,130
that whole trajectory there's been a lot

566
00:24:08,290 --> 00:24:06,500
of these conspiracy theories on on both

567
00:24:09,820 --> 00:24:08,300
sides ultimately there's been the

568
00:24:11,740 --> 00:24:09,830
conventional doctors saying that

569
00:24:13,780 --> 00:24:11,750
anything that isn't conventional is just

570
00:24:15,310 --> 00:24:13,790
pure quackery you know that it just

571
00:24:17,530 --> 00:24:15,320
doesn't make any sense and it's all just

572
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:17,540
frou-frou kind of like the way I used to

573
00:24:22,900 --> 00:24:20,090
think about the word healing but when

574
00:24:25,300 --> 00:24:22,910
you actually come to and take an

575
00:24:26,490 --> 00:24:25,310
objective and clear look at a lot of

576
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:26,500
these complementary and alternative

577
00:24:30,700 --> 00:24:29,330
systems they have value and and

578
00:24:35,140 --> 00:24:30,710
ultimately the way I've figured that out

579
00:24:37,060 --> 00:24:35,150
just by experiencing them myself so you

580
00:24:38,770 --> 00:24:37,070
know looking at what it's like to eat a

581
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:38,780
whole food plant-based diet and how I

582
00:24:43,510 --> 00:24:40,970
feel looking at what it's like to

583
00:24:46,510 --> 00:24:43,520
experience acupuncture or massage or

584
00:24:48,130 --> 00:24:46,520
traditional Chinese medicine you know

585
00:24:51,430 --> 00:24:48,140
looking at what it's like the practice

586
00:24:53,380 --> 00:24:51,440
meditation or different forms of

587
00:24:57,700 --> 00:24:53,390
physical activity like yoga or to

588
00:24:59,950 --> 00:24:57,710
participate in in groups so so all these

589
00:25:02,590 --> 00:24:59,960
things I've kind of done is by a little

590
00:25:05,950 --> 00:25:02,600
laboratory but over time that's getting

591
00:25:07,570 --> 00:25:05,960
better the the kind of conspiracy

592
00:25:09,540 --> 00:25:07,580
theories on both sides where the

593
00:25:11,230 --> 00:25:09,550
complementary folks will say well the

594
00:25:13,150 --> 00:25:11,240
establishment doesn't want you to know

595
00:25:15,250 --> 00:25:13,160
about these therapies because there's so

596
00:25:16,870 --> 00:25:15,260
much better and cheaper and they they

597
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:16,880
work header and the other things don't

598
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:18,890
work and then the other side says well

599
00:25:21,850 --> 00:25:20,210
that's just a bunch of quackery what

600
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:21,860
they do is really have any effect all

601
00:25:25,660 --> 00:25:23,810
that's really kind of washing away and

602
00:25:27,970 --> 00:25:25,670
the reason it's washing away it's

603
00:25:30,670 --> 00:25:27,980
because the people that are that have

604
00:25:32,980 --> 00:25:30,680
the ability to stand up and advocate for

605
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:32,990
themselves are saying look you know I'm

606
00:25:37,450 --> 00:25:34,850
important here what I do is important

607
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:37,460
here and these therapies work for me you

608
00:25:40,540 --> 00:25:38,930
know there are some therapies that it

609
00:25:43,810 --> 00:25:40,550
might not be possible to do

610
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:43,820
a double-blind randomized trial but that

611
00:25:50,020 --> 00:25:45,890
doesn't make it have any less value and

612
00:25:51,550 --> 00:25:50,030
so so the the key is I think that

613
00:25:54,820 --> 00:25:51,560
there's different levels of evidence

614
00:25:58,720 --> 00:25:54,830
that need to be in place for different

615
00:26:00,430 --> 00:25:58,730
types of therapy so for a therapy that

616
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:00,440
is going to have tremendous potential

617
00:26:04,660 --> 00:26:03,050
toxicity like radiation you know if we

618
00:26:07,990 --> 00:26:04,670
put some if we put somebody in a room

619
00:26:09,580 --> 00:26:08,000
and we deliver a dose of radiation it

620
00:26:11,170 --> 00:26:09,590
could literally kill them if we deliver

621
00:26:12,580 --> 00:26:11,180
a dose of radiation to their whole body

622
00:26:14,380 --> 00:26:12,590
kind of like what would happen at

623
00:26:16,990 --> 00:26:14,390
Chernobyl or something like that a whole

624
00:26:21,850 --> 00:26:17,000
body dose of radiation can kill you it'd

625
00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:21,860
be really hard to take a dose of saw

626
00:26:29,830 --> 00:26:25,760
palmetto that would kill you and so so

627
00:26:32,250 --> 00:26:29,840
the the the risks are different the

628
00:26:35,170 --> 00:26:32,260
benefits are all so different and so

629
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:35,180
radiation can be aimed and targeted in a

630
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:38,170
cancer cell and kill the cancer cell and

631
00:26:43,750 --> 00:26:40,970
if done in the correct way it can

632
00:26:46,210 --> 00:26:43,760
inspire normal tissue now different

633
00:26:48,250 --> 00:26:46,220
botanicals and and other types of

634
00:26:50,620 --> 00:26:48,260
complementary approaches they hit

635
00:26:55,030 --> 00:26:50,630
specific targets but they hit him much

636
00:26:57,850 --> 00:26:55,040
more gently and so the benefit is kind

637
00:26:59,650 --> 00:26:57,860
of milder lighter more prevented

638
00:27:02,050 --> 00:26:59,660
prevention oriented more supportive

639
00:27:04,420 --> 00:27:02,060
oriented and the risk is also

640
00:27:06,910 --> 00:27:04,430
significantly lower and so they're just

641
00:27:09,930 --> 00:27:06,920
there are different different intentions

642
00:27:12,550 --> 00:27:09,940
for different modalities and different

643
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:12,560
risk benefit ratios for different

644
00:27:18,940 --> 00:27:15,730
modalities and so in order to truly

645
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:18,950
transcend and include to basically get

646
00:27:22,990 --> 00:27:20,210
to a point where we're looking at

647
00:27:25,630 --> 00:27:23,000
everything in the world of medicine that

648
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:25,640
works such that we can address issues

649
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:27,530
that are related to the patient a

650
00:27:31,270 --> 00:27:29,210
patient centered relationship centered

651
00:27:34,780 --> 00:27:31,280
approach we need to take that entire

652
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:34,790
world into account and realize that we

653
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:38,930
have big toolbox right and in that

654
00:27:42,130 --> 00:27:40,730
toolbox there's conventional methods

655
00:27:44,410 --> 00:27:42,140
there's complimentary methods or

656
00:27:46,810 --> 00:27:44,420
alternative systems of care but none of

657
00:27:49,570 --> 00:27:46,820
those are more important than the

658
00:27:53,290 --> 00:27:49,580
individual and all of them can walk

659
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:53,300
together well said you have a line in

660
00:27:56,710 --> 00:27:54,290
the book say

661
00:27:59,380 --> 00:27:56,720
pain from a cancer prevention standpoint

662
00:28:02,770 --> 00:27:59,390
there's no safe daily amount of alcohol

663
00:28:04,930 --> 00:28:02,780
which is really concerning to me but

664
00:28:07,450 --> 00:28:04,940
that's what I said about it what why is

665
00:28:08,530 --> 00:28:07,460
that why is alcohol such a problem and I

666
00:28:14,170 --> 00:28:08,540
didn't haven't heard there was related

667
00:28:16,060 --> 00:28:14,180
to cancer yeah so alcohol basically has

668
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:16,070
multiple effects to the arrow for

669
00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:17,690
through the upper like aerodigestive

670
00:28:24,820 --> 00:28:21,710
tract it has hormonal effects now people

671
00:28:27,180 --> 00:28:24,830
have talked about for example red wine

672
00:28:29,140 --> 00:28:27,190
drinking red wine because of the

673
00:28:30,970 --> 00:28:29,150
substances in it and how it could

674
00:28:33,870 --> 00:28:30,980
potentially help with heart disease and

675
00:28:37,270 --> 00:28:33,880
be have some potential health benefits

676
00:28:39,340 --> 00:28:37,280
and so the biggest study that's out

677
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:39,350
there is a study that was done in Europe

678
00:28:44,590 --> 00:28:42,650
over 300,000 people and it looked at

679
00:28:46,770 --> 00:28:44,600
trying to define is there a safe amount

680
00:28:49,210 --> 00:28:46,780
of alcohol that people can drink and

681
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:49,220
ultimately they were just not able to

682
00:28:53,020 --> 00:28:51,410
define that now there is a recent study

683
00:28:55,630 --> 00:28:53,030
that's come out since we published our

684
00:28:57,850 --> 00:28:55,640
book or recent analysis of that study

685
00:28:59,590 --> 00:28:57,860
that said that maybe people that said

686
00:29:01,750 --> 00:28:59,600
they were only drinking one drink a day

687
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:01,760
we're actually drinking more and so

688
00:29:06,820 --> 00:29:03,650
there could be some reporting bias there

689
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:06,830
but from a standpoint of you know just

690
00:29:11,260 --> 00:29:08,810
thinking about if you think about kind

691
00:29:13,810 --> 00:29:11,270
of the way we're taught about nutrition

692
00:29:17,380 --> 00:29:13,820
and our culture's with the old food

693
00:29:19,390 --> 00:29:17,390
pyramid right and so the very top of the

694
00:29:22,540 --> 00:29:19,400
pyramid are things that we just want to

695
00:29:24,940 --> 00:29:22,550
use sparingly occasionally and so I

696
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:24,950
would put alcohol it's a very top of the

697
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:26,570
pyramid there I don't think it's

698
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:28,490
something that we should use on a daily

699
00:29:34,090 --> 00:29:31,610
basis it's something that you know drink

700
00:29:38,590 --> 00:29:34,100
or two you know maybe once a week or

701
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:38,600
once a month is reasonable but from a

702
00:29:46,180 --> 00:29:43,370
pure if your goal is to prevent illness

703
00:29:49,810 --> 00:29:46,190
to say that you want to drink six pack a

704
00:29:52,450 --> 00:29:49,820
day is is not a cancer prevention type

705
00:29:55,770 --> 00:29:52,460
of a purpose and so I would put it right

706
00:30:00,220 --> 00:29:55,780
up there with tobacco use ultimately

707
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:00,230
yeah which I I've always been against

708
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:02,210
that which is so strange because I have

709
00:30:06,550 --> 00:30:04,970
no other areas of life am I healthy but

710
00:30:08,169 --> 00:30:06,560
I do want to get a bit more into the

711
00:30:10,570 --> 00:30:08,179
book sustainable wellness

712
00:30:12,970 --> 00:30:10,580
as you heard a bit in the intro I'm not

713
00:30:15,609 --> 00:30:12,980
a healthy man I thought maybe I could

714
00:30:17,409 --> 00:30:15,619
outline what a day is for me objectively

715
00:30:19,169 --> 00:30:17,419
you could tell me where you think the

716
00:30:22,149 --> 00:30:19,179
most beneficial changes could be made

717
00:30:24,580 --> 00:30:22,159
okay because even when i wrote this out

718
00:30:26,980 --> 00:30:24,590
i was like wow that's pretty bad and it

719
00:30:29,289 --> 00:30:26,990
is because i don't stop i don't really

720
00:30:30,970 --> 00:30:29,299
think about it it is in the back of my

721
00:30:32,289 --> 00:30:30,980
mind that I'm like okay tomorrow I'm

722
00:30:34,299 --> 00:30:32,299
going to have to work out some different

723
00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:34,309
because I can't keep doing this but yet

724
00:30:41,350 --> 00:30:39,110
it's been years so in all honesty I wake

725
00:30:44,109 --> 00:30:41,360
up for work after about five or six

726
00:30:47,139 --> 00:30:44,119
miserable hours of sleep I usually feel

727
00:30:50,049 --> 00:30:47,149
sick I'm stuffy I call it allergies I

728
00:30:52,330 --> 00:30:50,059
smoke some weed I take a shower I stop

729
00:30:54,930 --> 00:30:52,340
at 7-eleven on my way to work usually

730
00:30:58,090 --> 00:30:54,940
get an energy drink some kind of Danish

731
00:31:00,580 --> 00:30:58,100
once I finally get a lunch break I smoke

732
00:31:02,830 --> 00:31:00,590
again and with only 30 minutes usually

733
00:31:06,879 --> 00:31:02,840
go through a drive through to get a

734
00:31:09,129 --> 00:31:06,889
burger fries a soda for sure i get off

735
00:31:11,859 --> 00:31:09,139
work smoke weed and after a nine-hour

736
00:31:14,109 --> 00:31:11,869
day at the store and an hour commute I

737
00:31:16,269 --> 00:31:14,119
don't have the time or energy for much

738
00:31:19,239 --> 00:31:16,279
other than another drive through sadly

739
00:31:21,909 --> 00:31:19,249
maybe panda express or taco bell I come

740
00:31:24,249 --> 00:31:21,919
home smoke some more have a few beers or

741
00:31:30,009 --> 00:31:24,259
mimosas embrace myself for another day

742
00:31:32,259 --> 00:31:30,019
so what am I not doing right well I

743
00:31:35,289 --> 00:31:32,269
guess I would just the first thing I

744
00:31:37,810 --> 00:31:35,299
would say is you know how did you get to

745
00:31:39,700 --> 00:31:37,820
the point where you're where you have

746
00:31:41,789 --> 00:31:39,710
this lifestyle right now is this select

747
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:41,799
out of it how did you arrive at this

748
00:31:47,830 --> 00:31:46,490
well I mean I really feel that you know

749
00:31:49,749 --> 00:31:47,840
growing up I always did have to have

750
00:31:51,850 --> 00:31:49,759
dinner with my family that was a big

751
00:31:54,549 --> 00:31:51,860
thing my mom would always cook but once

752
00:31:57,430 --> 00:31:54,559
I got out of the age of having dinner

753
00:31:59,109 --> 00:31:57,440
nightly with my family with my parents I

754
00:32:00,789 --> 00:31:59,119
would just go through a drive thru with

755
00:32:03,850 --> 00:32:00,799
friends you know we were living cheap at

756
00:32:07,330 --> 00:32:03,860
16 to 18 I'm probably a little longer

757
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:07,340
than that and you know now it's just

758
00:32:12,700 --> 00:32:11,330
that the show has so much that I have to

759
00:32:14,980 --> 00:32:12,710
dedicate so much time to the show off

760
00:32:17,590 --> 00:32:14,990
off of work it's like a second job so

761
00:32:20,379 --> 00:32:17,600
when I am at work I really am just go go

762
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:20,389
go and I don't have a lot of choices i

763
00:32:25,150 --> 00:32:22,010
know that to really do it right

764
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:25,160
would have to probably make myself food

765
00:32:29,950 --> 00:32:28,490
well in advance but I just don't seem to

766
00:32:32,050 --> 00:32:29,960
take the time I think a lot of people

767
00:32:36,490 --> 00:32:32,060
are probably in the same boat with me on

768
00:32:39,820 --> 00:32:36,500
that one no yeah so um what what do you

769
00:32:42,250 --> 00:32:39,830
do to when you're not working because it

770
00:32:43,930 --> 00:32:42,260
sounds like the sound like what you're

771
00:32:45,910 --> 00:32:43,940
saying is the work is really kind of

772
00:32:48,430 --> 00:32:45,920
what what drives you right now that

773
00:32:51,220 --> 00:32:48,440
right I would say so I would say it is

774
00:32:54,250 --> 00:32:51,230
and when I'm not there I feel like I

775
00:32:56,860 --> 00:32:54,260
deserve a couple hours of relaxation so

776
00:32:59,770 --> 00:32:56,870
exercise is pretty much off the table as

777
00:33:02,140 --> 00:32:59,780
well it's a I think it's a pattern that

778
00:33:05,020 --> 00:33:02,150
a lot of people get into I'm I guess I

779
00:33:08,590 --> 00:33:05,030
feel sort of lucky and that I have a

780
00:33:12,100 --> 00:33:08,600
high metabolism I mean I'm 61 I'm 165

781
00:33:14,020 --> 00:33:12,110
pounds I'm pretty skinny guy and if that

782
00:33:16,780 --> 00:33:14,030
were to really start changing I'm sure

783
00:33:19,450 --> 00:33:16,790
I'd probably look at it differently but

784
00:33:23,890 --> 00:33:19,460
I know I can't be healthy regardless of

785
00:33:27,190 --> 00:33:23,900
what it looks like yeah yeah so you know

786
00:33:28,780 --> 00:33:27,200
I mean your situation I would obviously

787
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:28,790
I need a little more time to sit in

788
00:33:35,260 --> 00:33:30,290
poverty but just some things that I

789
00:33:39,490 --> 00:33:35,270
would just beer for you or you know from

790
00:33:41,260 --> 00:33:39,500
a standpoint of kind of the rhythm of

791
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:41,270
your life it sounds like you know it

792
00:33:46,660 --> 00:33:43,010
sounds like you're not getting terribly

793
00:33:50,590 --> 00:33:46,670
restful sleep no and then it sounds like

794
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:50,600
you're so from standpoint of I guess

795
00:33:54,070 --> 00:33:52,850
let's go through let's use our one of

796
00:33:56,830 --> 00:33:54,080
the things we use in the book with a

797
00:33:58,900 --> 00:33:56,840
three-legged stool of Health oh yeah and

798
00:34:00,820 --> 00:33:58,910
I like that analogy because I did what

799
00:34:03,490 --> 00:34:00,830
would we like to talk about is if the

800
00:34:06,100 --> 00:34:03,500
school is out of balance then or if

801
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:06,110
you'll your sittings on upon it is out

802
00:34:09,310 --> 00:34:07,250
of balance and just a little out of

803
00:34:10,659 --> 00:34:09,320
balance you don't need big tools you

804
00:34:12,100 --> 00:34:10,669
don't need to replace the leg or

805
00:34:15,220 --> 00:34:12,110
anything like that you just need little

806
00:34:17,110 --> 00:34:15,230
tools to put under specific areas to get

807
00:34:19,540 --> 00:34:17,120
the thing back in balance yeah and so

808
00:34:22,149 --> 00:34:19,550
the first step is being able to be aware

809
00:34:23,980 --> 00:34:22,159
that it's out of balance and what you

810
00:34:26,139 --> 00:34:23,990
just did that little exercise you just

811
00:34:28,270 --> 00:34:26,149
did is an exercise and awareness and so

812
00:34:31,450 --> 00:34:28,280
that's the first step you just wrote

813
00:34:33,610 --> 00:34:31,460
down you know this is my day and so

814
00:34:35,260 --> 00:34:33,620
you're aware enough to know that this is

815
00:34:35,950 --> 00:34:35,270
what you're doing and it sounds like

816
00:34:38,379 --> 00:34:35,960
you're also

817
00:34:40,750 --> 00:34:38,389
aware enough to say that it's not a

818
00:34:43,359 --> 00:34:40,760
terribly balanced relationship with you

819
00:34:46,510 --> 00:34:43,369
and your body right no no not at all

820
00:34:48,790 --> 00:34:46,520
yeah and so so then you start looking at

821
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:48,800
the different legs of the three-legged

822
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:51,530
stool right so physical activity laws

823
00:34:57,339 --> 00:34:53,570
what kind of physical activity do you do

824
00:35:01,150 --> 00:34:57,349
during the day just walk into the car to

825
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:01,160
then get drive to work right so that leg

826
00:35:05,500 --> 00:35:03,410
is by a little out of balance so might

827
00:35:07,900 --> 00:35:05,510
think about you know the things might be

828
00:35:10,660 --> 00:35:07,910
leaning in that direction so that's one

829
00:35:12,609 --> 00:35:10,670
piece from oh look out then what what

830
00:35:16,359 --> 00:35:12,619
about from a standpoint of nutrition you

831
00:35:18,910 --> 00:35:16,369
know from a nutritional standpoint is

832
00:35:21,310 --> 00:35:18,920
that are you eating a lot of processed

833
00:35:24,089 --> 00:35:21,320
foods yeah are you eating a lot of

834
00:35:26,980 --> 00:35:24,099
animal products are you taking in

835
00:35:29,170 --> 00:35:26,990
something to help get you up and then

836
00:35:30,609 --> 00:35:29,180
are you taking in something to help get

837
00:35:33,820 --> 00:35:30,619
you down you know I'm a hundred percent

838
00:35:37,630 --> 00:35:33,830
o every detect chak chak de tech right

839
00:35:40,210 --> 00:35:37,640
okay and so so that leg of the stool is

840
00:35:43,839 --> 00:35:40,220
also having a little rickety you know

841
00:35:45,339 --> 00:35:43,849
cognition could give some focus and then

842
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:45,349
the third leg of the stool is stress

843
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:48,130
management so how do you feel like your

844
00:35:54,970 --> 00:35:51,530
stress level is oh pretty through the

845
00:35:57,310 --> 00:35:54,980
roof pretty much one of them pretty much

846
00:35:58,750 --> 00:35:57,320
unhappy all the time you know just

847
00:36:01,210 --> 00:35:58,760
trying to get out of the nine to five

848
00:36:05,079 --> 00:36:01,220
day job is is pretty stressful dealing

849
00:36:09,130 --> 00:36:05,089
with people all day is very uh it gets

850
00:36:11,470 --> 00:36:09,140
on my patients so so your work it sounds

851
00:36:13,540 --> 00:36:11,480
like you're not enjoying it that much is

852
00:36:15,250 --> 00:36:13,550
that correct right that would be one

853
00:36:17,740 --> 00:36:15,260
hundred percent correct and the only

854
00:36:21,490 --> 00:36:17,750
stress management I do I like to pretend

855
00:36:23,859 --> 00:36:21,500
I like to us I do feel like I have a

856
00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:23,869
pretty laid-back attitude but you know

857
00:36:28,660 --> 00:36:25,609
that doesn't necessarily mean that the

858
00:36:31,750 --> 00:36:28,670
stress washes off I think marijuana is

859
00:36:34,089 --> 00:36:31,760
really my only and an alcohol are really

860
00:36:37,900 --> 00:36:34,099
the only things I do to deal with the

861
00:36:41,230 --> 00:36:37,910
daily stress yeah and so those are

862
00:36:43,900 --> 00:36:41,240
there's those two things have potential

863
00:36:46,750 --> 00:36:43,910
repercussions of yesterday they're kind

864
00:36:48,349 --> 00:36:46,760
of artificial ups and artificial downs

865
00:36:50,359 --> 00:36:48,359
you know to a certain extent

866
00:36:52,130 --> 00:36:50,369
so that leg of the stool could use a

867
00:36:54,049 --> 00:36:52,140
little addressing and so from a

868
00:36:56,150 --> 00:36:54,059
spirituality perspective do you have any

869
00:36:58,339 --> 00:36:56,160
kind of spiritual connection or

870
00:37:00,229 --> 00:36:58,349
spiritual approach that you think about

871
00:37:01,910 --> 00:37:00,239
or what's your what's the thing in your

872
00:37:04,249 --> 00:37:01,920
life if you were to say this is like the

873
00:37:08,180 --> 00:37:04,259
thing I'm ultimately concerned and in my

874
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:08,190
life I would say ultimately concerned a

875
00:37:14,690 --> 00:37:11,970
bit of an obsession is being self

876
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:14,700
sustaining economically being able to

877
00:37:18,890 --> 00:37:16,650
buy back my freedom from the corporate

878
00:37:21,109 --> 00:37:18,900
world essentially that's probably the

879
00:37:25,039 --> 00:37:21,119
biggest concern think that's why I work

880
00:37:27,529 --> 00:37:25,049
myself so hard to try to pull myself out

881
00:37:30,589 --> 00:37:27,539
of this and that's that adds a lot of

882
00:37:31,940 --> 00:37:30,599
stress so when you say by yourself back

883
00:37:34,339 --> 00:37:31,950
from the corporate world one of what do

884
00:37:37,549 --> 00:37:34,349
you mean exactly like debt was or like

885
00:37:39,979 --> 00:37:37,559
um I'm not in a whole lot debt but just

886
00:37:42,319 --> 00:37:39,989
I'd like to be able to pay for my life

887
00:37:44,479 --> 00:37:42,329
for the just the average you know the

888
00:37:47,450 --> 00:37:44,489
average middle-class life with some

889
00:37:50,229 --> 00:37:47,460
creative outlet like this show or I also

890
00:37:53,900 --> 00:37:50,239
sell conspiracy t-shirts are related to

891
00:37:55,339 --> 00:37:53,910
the show and if those two things if I

892
00:37:57,859 --> 00:37:55,349
could make a living doing those two

893
00:38:00,229 --> 00:37:57,869
things and you know i would say buy back

894
00:38:03,739 --> 00:38:00,239
my freedom because i'm not forced to go

895
00:38:05,749 --> 00:38:03,749
to anywhere to some building eight hours

896
00:38:08,599 --> 00:38:05,759
a day eight nine hours a day that's the

897
00:38:11,859 --> 00:38:08,609
type of thing I'm talking about yeah and

898
00:38:14,180 --> 00:38:11,869
so right now your work entails you

899
00:38:16,779 --> 00:38:14,190
working eight hours a day and a in a

900
00:38:19,849 --> 00:38:16,789
building basically yeah I actually run a

901
00:38:23,059 --> 00:38:19,859
video game store a corporate video game

902
00:38:28,809 --> 00:38:23,069
store I'm there about 50 hours a week ok

903
00:38:34,700 --> 00:38:32,359
so I mean I think you know basically if

904
00:38:37,180 --> 00:38:34,710
you think about each of those areas then

905
00:38:39,799 --> 00:38:37,190
and say to yourself ok first of all

906
00:38:43,069 --> 00:38:39,809
there's no need to like throw everything

907
00:38:44,630 --> 00:38:43,079
out and say ok I'm just a total mess and

908
00:38:46,759 --> 00:38:44,640
we need to change everything all once

909
00:38:49,220 --> 00:38:46,769
you know so trying to start off with

910
00:38:52,579 --> 00:38:49,230
small incremental changes i think it can

911
00:38:54,789 --> 00:38:52,589
be very helpful so instead of for

912
00:38:56,989 --> 00:38:54,799
example instead of the energy drinks

913
00:39:01,460 --> 00:38:56,999
trying to substitute something like

914
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:01,470
green tea green tea has lower amounts of

915
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:02,010
caffeine

916
00:39:07,100 --> 00:39:05,010
in it but also very healthy beverage and

917
00:39:09,860 --> 00:39:07,110
can give you a little bit of that pick

918
00:39:12,140 --> 00:39:09,870
me up energy type of a thing that's all

919
00:39:13,670 --> 00:39:12,150
those thing I'm looking for some time to

920
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:13,680
tip like that because I can still get

921
00:39:17,900 --> 00:39:15,330
that in a 7-eleven I can still enjoy

922
00:39:19,430 --> 00:39:17,910
that during my work day yeah and you can

923
00:39:22,250 --> 00:39:19,440
buy it at a kroger you can buy the

924
00:39:24,350 --> 00:39:22,260
teabags and that can actually become

925
00:39:26,180 --> 00:39:24,360
kind of a stopping practice one of those

926
00:39:28,310 --> 00:39:26,190
little yoga bits where you know you

927
00:39:30,170 --> 00:39:28,320
takes time to heat up the water it takes

928
00:39:32,510 --> 00:39:30,180
time to take the tea bag and put it in

929
00:39:34,430 --> 00:39:32,520
the cup takes time to let it steep and

930
00:39:35,720 --> 00:39:34,440
during that time instead of just

931
00:39:37,610 --> 00:39:35,730
thinking about where am I going where my

932
00:39:40,460 --> 00:39:37,620
been what have I got to do you can just

933
00:39:42,260 --> 00:39:40,470
say ok let's just sit here and watch as

934
00:39:46,190 --> 00:39:42,270
this tea speech now they say a watched

935
00:39:48,050 --> 00:39:46,200
pot never boils right and so instead of

936
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:48,060
watching what's happening with the tea

937
00:39:52,300 --> 00:39:49,530
just watching what's happening in your

938
00:39:55,220 --> 00:39:52,310
body watching how you're breathing and

939
00:39:57,230 --> 00:39:55,230
may be counting your breaths with your

940
00:39:58,970 --> 00:39:57,240
hand that type of thing so that even

941
00:40:02,330 --> 00:39:58,980
that one little change can have multiple

942
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:02,340
different points that it would impact

943
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:03,930
you it impact you potentially

944
00:40:08,030 --> 00:40:06,210
nutritionally it would impact you from a

945
00:40:11,300 --> 00:40:08,040
standpoint of stress management because

946
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:11,310
it gives you that time to stop so that's

947
00:40:16,340 --> 00:40:13,410
one little kind of neat change that

948
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:16,350
could be helpful from standpoint of from

949
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:19,170
a standpoint of physical activity just

950
00:40:23,780 --> 00:40:21,330
trying to even do something as simple as

951
00:40:26,900 --> 00:40:23,790
parking further away from the place that

952
00:40:30,050 --> 00:40:26,910
you work you know most people get real

953
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:30,060
intimidated by by saying exercise the

954
00:40:35,540 --> 00:40:31,650
word exercise it makes you think you got

955
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:35,550
to go to a gym and do p90x and you know

956
00:40:41,810 --> 00:40:38,370
then go out and run a marathon and you

957
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:41,820
know so forth and so on actually there's

958
00:40:46,790 --> 00:40:44,610
some thought that maybe overtaxing

959
00:40:48,290 --> 00:40:46,800
yourself with that level of physical

960
00:40:50,570 --> 00:40:48,300
activity could potentially in the long

961
00:40:52,490 --> 00:40:50,580
term put you out of balance as well and

962
00:40:55,190 --> 00:40:52,500
more prone to injury and so forth and so

963
00:40:59,300 --> 00:40:55,200
I'm a big advocate of just the simple

964
00:41:01,100 --> 00:40:59,310
lack of walking walking and so get

965
00:41:04,610 --> 00:41:01,110
yourself a nice pair of sneakers that

966
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:04,620
have decent support and just walking a

967
00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:06,690
total of twenty to thirty minutes a day

968
00:41:10,340 --> 00:41:08,250
doesn't even have to be all the ones

969
00:41:12,500 --> 00:41:10,350
just trying to add spice in little

970
00:41:13,580 --> 00:41:12,510
pieces of physical activity throughout

971
00:41:16,820 --> 00:41:13,590
the day

972
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:16,830
and so that would be one piece just

973
00:41:22,190 --> 00:41:20,250
trying to walk 20 30 minutes a day even

974
00:41:23,810 --> 00:41:22,200
if you had to try to whichever some

975
00:41:25,910 --> 00:41:23,820
people are morning people some people

976
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:25,920
are night people I would more recommend

977
00:41:30,110 --> 00:41:28,170
walking either in the morning or during

978
00:41:31,940 --> 00:41:30,120
the day that I would try to wait till

979
00:41:33,830 --> 00:41:31,950
night time because at night con you

980
00:41:37,670 --> 00:41:33,840
can't trying to ramp self down and get

981
00:41:39,820 --> 00:41:37,680
some write some rest so physical

982
00:41:42,700 --> 00:41:39,830
activity wise walking 20 minutes a day

983
00:41:46,670 --> 00:41:42,710
going back to the nutritional piece

984
00:41:49,220 --> 00:41:46,680
there are trying to trying to get in

985
00:41:52,850 --> 00:41:49,230
fifty percent let's say starting with

986
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:52,860
fifty percent of your diet has kind of a

987
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:55,530
whole food plant based approach so what

988
00:42:00,530 --> 00:41:58,410
does that mean exactly ask yourself two

989
00:42:03,530 --> 00:42:00,540
questions before you eat half of what

990
00:42:05,780 --> 00:42:03,540
you eat is in a hole is apart from a

991
00:42:07,220 --> 00:42:05,790
plant or is it from an animal if it's

992
00:42:09,980 --> 00:42:07,230
from an animal that it doesn't meet the

993
00:42:11,570 --> 00:42:09,990
criteria if it's from a plant then ask

994
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:11,580
yourself as a part of the plant that's

995
00:42:17,030 --> 00:42:13,770
been crushed up and added salt sugar etc

996
00:42:18,650 --> 00:42:17,040
oil that's the process food and if it's

997
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:18,660
a whole part of the plan it's the root

998
00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:22,530
the fruit the stem the nut the seeds the

999
00:42:27,740 --> 00:42:25,200
leads try to make to start out with

1000
00:42:30,740 --> 00:42:27,750
fifty percent of your diet have that

1001
00:42:33,830 --> 00:42:30,750
half of your plate have that whole food

1002
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:33,840
plant-based source and just do that for

1003
00:42:37,580 --> 00:42:35,850
each portion of what you eat and

1004
00:42:40,220 --> 00:42:37,590
actually some of the fast food

1005
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:40,230
restaurants nowadays are coming out with

1006
00:42:44,570 --> 00:42:42,570
more food than are like that they're not

1007
00:42:47,330 --> 00:42:44,580
they're not perfect but for example

1008
00:42:50,030 --> 00:42:47,340
McDonald's has a oatmeal now that has

1009
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:50,040
fruit and nuts in it and that's a whole

1010
00:42:57,470 --> 00:42:53,490
lot different than a make whatever

1011
00:43:00,380 --> 00:42:57,480
McMuffin I think mcnabb you know so yeah

1012
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:00,390
it's a totally different deal and so

1013
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:02,970
instead of you know kind of ramping

1014
00:43:07,790 --> 00:43:05,970
yourself up during a day and choosing

1015
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:07,800
you know just try to try to start out

1016
00:43:12,860 --> 00:43:10,050
with doing fifty percent of your

1017
00:43:14,660 --> 00:43:12,870
nutrition having a plant source man you

1018
00:43:18,590 --> 00:43:14,670
do recommend more of a vegetarian

1019
00:43:20,780 --> 00:43:18,600
lifestyle yes I think whole food plant

1020
00:43:23,330 --> 00:43:20,790
based approaches the way out like a

1021
00:43:24,830 --> 00:43:23,340
mmm and there's a lot of for me there

1022
00:43:27,530 --> 00:43:24,840
was a lot of reasons that I'd started

1023
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:27,540
eating like that it took a lot for me

1024
00:43:31,370 --> 00:43:29,370
because I kinda was grown up with yeah

1025
00:43:34,250 --> 00:43:31,380
like you i sat down every night with my

1026
00:43:39,250 --> 00:43:34,260
family and we'd have London broil and

1027
00:43:43,340 --> 00:43:39,260
some vegetables perfect milk and for me

1028
00:43:46,370 --> 00:43:43,350
over time going through medicine and

1029
00:43:49,100 --> 00:43:46,380
learning about nutrition I realized that

1030
00:43:50,500 --> 00:43:49,110
and then also learning about just kind

1031
00:43:53,300 --> 00:43:50,510
of what's going on in the world I

1032
00:43:55,460 --> 00:43:53,310
realized first of all plants are much

1033
00:43:56,570 --> 00:43:55,470
more healthy than animal products and

1034
00:43:59,750 --> 00:43:56,580
certainly way more healthy than

1035
00:44:01,970 --> 00:43:59,760
processed foods and also realize that it

1036
00:44:05,150 --> 00:44:01,980
takes a lot of natural resources to

1037
00:44:07,940 --> 00:44:05,160
actually grow animals to feed them to

1038
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:07,950
people as food and animals themselves

1039
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:12,330
produce more harmful gases associated

1040
00:44:19,490 --> 00:44:16,410
with environmental damage than cars do

1041
00:44:21,380 --> 00:44:19,500
and so if we would stop taking all of

1042
00:44:23,690 --> 00:44:21,390
our plants that were producing and

1043
00:44:25,550 --> 00:44:23,700
feeding them the animals that we then

1044
00:44:27,590 --> 00:44:25,560
feed the humans we'd be able to feed a

1045
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:27,600
lot more humans and we'd be able to

1046
00:44:31,820 --> 00:44:29,490
protect the Earth a lot more than we are

1047
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:31,830
right now and so all of those factors

1048
00:44:38,060 --> 00:44:36,450
kind of for me played into going and

1049
00:44:40,370 --> 00:44:38,070
eating more of a whole food plant-based

1050
00:44:41,570 --> 00:44:40,380
die now when thanksgiving comes around

1051
00:44:46,010 --> 00:44:41,580
do i eat a little piece of turkey yeah

1052
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:46,020
I'm not gonna but I'd say ninety nine

1053
00:44:50,380 --> 00:44:48,210
percent of what I do is a whole food

1054
00:44:53,060 --> 00:44:50,390
plant-based diet and the reason I do it

1055
00:44:56,330 --> 00:44:53,070
ultimately are all those reasons but

1056
00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:56,340
then I feel better and so all of these

1057
00:45:00,200 --> 00:44:58,410
little things that we're talking about

1058
00:45:02,930 --> 00:45:00,210
Greg all these little things these

1059
00:45:05,180 --> 00:45:02,940
little steps are things that you can

1060
00:45:06,980 --> 00:45:05,190
just try for yourself because it doesn't

1061
00:45:08,930 --> 00:45:06,990
matter if I sit here and say oh well you

1062
00:45:11,270 --> 00:45:08,940
know tried green tea and seven any drink

1063
00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:11,280
you know try try watching yourself

1064
00:45:15,500 --> 00:45:12,720
breathe while you're making the tea try

1065
00:45:17,900 --> 00:45:15,510
walking 20 minutes a day when you're

1066
00:45:19,100 --> 00:45:17,910
stuck at a stoplight ride focusing on

1067
00:45:20,930 --> 00:45:19,110
your present all these are just little

1068
00:45:25,670 --> 00:45:20,940
teeny tools but if they don't work for

1069
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:25,680
you then they don't work and so finding

1070
00:45:30,020 --> 00:45:27,570
finding something that does for you is

1071
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:30,030
the most vital thing mm-hmm and then

1072
00:45:34,279 --> 00:45:32,010
it's tough I think a lot of people are

1073
00:45:36,769 --> 00:45:34,289
on sort of a fast-food diet

1074
00:45:39,140 --> 00:45:36,779
because of their their jobs is there any

1075
00:45:43,759 --> 00:45:39,150
supplements you would recommend to try

1076
00:45:45,529 --> 00:45:43,769
to offset a diet like that from a

1077
00:45:47,989 --> 00:45:45,539
standpoint of supplements we think about

1078
00:45:50,900 --> 00:45:47,999
them as being complementary to the diet

1079
00:45:53,509 --> 00:45:50,910
so they don't reply interactive yeah you

1080
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:53,519
can't really let's say that there are

1081
00:45:57,949 --> 00:45:56,249
certain companies that make dehydrated

1082
00:45:59,299 --> 00:45:57,959
that's one fruit supplements and say

1083
00:46:01,429 --> 00:45:59,309
okay well if you just take these pills

1084
00:46:02,900 --> 00:46:01,439
and it's just like eating vegetables and

1085
00:46:05,089 --> 00:46:02,910
fruits and you keep you can just keep

1086
00:46:06,529 --> 00:46:05,099
eating them right standard American diet

1087
00:46:08,299 --> 00:46:06,539
and everything will be fine and

1088
00:46:10,459 --> 00:46:08,309
ultimately that's not a good way of

1089
00:46:13,159 --> 00:46:10,469
looking at it however I do think that

1090
00:46:16,370 --> 00:46:13,169
even with a whole food plant based

1091
00:46:18,169 --> 00:46:16,380
approach the soils that were raising our

1092
00:46:19,549 --> 00:46:18,179
foods in right now are significantly

1093
00:46:21,650 --> 00:46:19,559
more depleted than they were a hundred

1094
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:21,660
years ago and so there are certain

1095
00:46:25,669 --> 00:46:23,249
vitamins that we just don't get enough

1096
00:46:28,699 --> 00:46:25,679
of so I do advocate people take a good

1097
00:46:31,939 --> 00:46:28,709
multivitamin you can find a good one on

1098
00:46:35,150 --> 00:46:31,949
the doctor wilds vitamin advisor comm

1099
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:35,160
site a good multivitamin and on another

1100
00:46:40,699 --> 00:46:37,410
supplement that i recommend most folks

1101
00:46:42,589 --> 00:46:40,709
would take is a good mega three fat we

1102
00:46:46,029 --> 00:46:42,599
just don't get enough omega-3s in our

1103
00:46:49,309 --> 00:46:46,039
diet in general and omega-3s are highly

1104
00:46:51,979 --> 00:46:49,319
anti-inflammatory and then the other

1105
00:46:57,439 --> 00:46:51,989
vitamin that I generally recommend is

1106
00:46:58,789 --> 00:46:57,449
vitamin d3 which has pretty much the one

1107
00:47:02,179 --> 00:46:58,799
of the bigger vitamins of the day I

1108
00:47:05,659 --> 00:47:02,189
guess you might say and for men and

1109
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:05,669
women and so about a thousand

1110
00:47:10,459 --> 00:47:08,249
international units of vitamin d3 are

1111
00:47:12,019 --> 00:47:10,469
reasonable to take and vitamin b3 is

1112
00:47:13,939 --> 00:47:12,029
really more of a hormone so that's kind

1113
00:47:16,459 --> 00:47:13,949
of a foundational set of supplements for

1114
00:47:20,899 --> 00:47:16,469
men for women I would also add in

1115
00:47:22,370 --> 00:47:20,909
calcium citrate but those are all

1116
00:47:24,559 --> 00:47:22,380
foundational supplements now there's

1117
00:47:26,739 --> 00:47:24,569
other things that you can use from the

1118
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:26,749
natural world like botanicals that

1119
00:47:31,609 --> 00:47:29,249
instead of for example instead of

1120
00:47:33,559 --> 00:47:31,619
alcohol at night because one of the

1121
00:47:35,809 --> 00:47:33,569
things that can happen when you're when

1122
00:47:38,479 --> 00:47:35,819
you're constantly swinging from one high

1123
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:38,489
21 low and trying to kind of manipulate

1124
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:41,130
that with with things it's like the

1125
00:47:46,279 --> 00:47:44,130
equivalent of when we were talking

1126
00:47:47,660 --> 00:47:46,289
before about chemotherapy or radiation

1127
00:47:50,990 --> 00:47:47,670
treating with

1128
00:47:52,849 --> 00:47:51,000
significant damage to normal tissues

1129
00:47:55,730 --> 00:47:52,859
unless it's very targeted so the

1130
00:47:57,559 --> 00:47:55,740
risk-benefit ratio is different for

1131
00:47:59,329 --> 00:47:57,569
chemotherapy and radiation than it is

1132
00:48:02,089 --> 00:47:59,339
for complementary approaches well the

1133
00:48:05,809 --> 00:48:02,099
risk-benefit ratio of alcohol and weed

1134
00:48:11,210 --> 00:48:05,819
are and energy drinks are different than

1135
00:48:14,569 --> 00:48:11,220
let's say drinking a glass of valerian

1136
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:14,579
tea at night more chamomile tea at night

1137
00:48:19,730 --> 00:48:17,130
which can be very resting and calming

1138
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:19,740
and drinking glass of green tea in the

1139
00:48:25,370 --> 00:48:22,170
morning as something that can be

1140
00:48:27,770 --> 00:48:25,380
somewhat stimulating there's also a good

1141
00:48:31,930 --> 00:48:27,780
mushroom extract that can help with in

1142
00:48:35,329 --> 00:48:31,940
men especially with energy levels and

1143
00:48:41,630 --> 00:48:35,339
potency types of issues and it's called

1144
00:48:46,190 --> 00:48:41,640
cordyceps cor dy see eps and so it's not

1145
00:48:49,460 --> 00:48:46,200
a psychedelic mushrooms I am a big joe

1146
00:48:52,039 --> 00:48:49,470
rogan fan and he on his podcast has

1147
00:48:54,470 --> 00:48:52,049
sponsored that he's involved with that

1148
00:48:55,670 --> 00:48:54,480
one of the things they make nootropics

1149
00:48:57,770 --> 00:48:55,680
they call them you know one of the

1150
00:49:01,849 --> 00:48:57,780
things they make is a cordyceps mushroom

1151
00:49:04,539 --> 00:49:01,859
a minimal system thing yeah so cordyceps

1152
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:04,549
has some immune benefit but it's more

1153
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:07,170
focused on energy and energy metabolism

1154
00:49:13,910 --> 00:49:10,290
really and so there are other mushrooms

1155
00:49:17,569 --> 00:49:13,920
that have significant immune benefits as

1156
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:17,579
well so so that's that's another thing I

1157
00:49:22,370 --> 00:49:19,530
would think about in your situation you

1158
00:49:24,370 --> 00:49:22,380
know trying to trying to ramp up the

1159
00:49:27,079 --> 00:49:24,380
your energy level with things like

1160
00:49:28,700 --> 00:49:27,089
physical activity physical activity even

1161
00:49:30,530 --> 00:49:28,710
though you're putting energy out it

1162
00:49:33,049 --> 00:49:30,540
resets you talked to before about high

1163
00:49:35,020 --> 00:49:33,059
metabolism and what what physical

1164
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:35,030
activity does is it kind of resets your

1165
00:49:40,339 --> 00:49:37,650
energy metabolism rate so you just have

1166
00:49:42,140 --> 00:49:40,349
more energy throughout the day as long

1167
00:49:46,339 --> 00:49:42,150
as you're nothing they are doing it in a

1168
00:49:48,319 --> 00:49:46,349
balanced and rational way and so so all

1169
00:49:51,950 --> 00:49:48,329
these things tend to conspire together

1170
00:49:53,420 --> 00:49:51,960
all these little changes just like the

1171
00:49:55,069 --> 00:49:53,430
little changes that you would make if

1172
00:49:57,109 --> 00:49:55,079
you went to a restaurant and there was a

1173
00:49:59,390 --> 00:49:57,119
table that was out of kilter and you

1174
00:50:01,430 --> 00:49:59,400
you'd put a little napkin under one of

1175
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:01,440
those legs of the table well another leg

1176
00:50:03,930 --> 00:50:01,930
might be

1177
00:50:05,609 --> 00:50:03,940
a little something but eventually you

1178
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:05,619
can figure out a way to balance it out

1179
00:50:09,359 --> 00:50:07,210
if you pay enough attention and if it's

1180
00:50:14,309 --> 00:50:09,369
really worth it to you to pay attention

1181
00:50:16,579 --> 00:50:14,319
to what's going on there so so yeah so

1182
00:50:19,109 --> 00:50:16,589
these things you know the word health

1183
00:50:21,630 --> 00:50:19,119
and you've said several times that you

1184
00:50:23,700 --> 00:50:21,640
don't feel like you're too healthy and

1185
00:50:26,609 --> 00:50:23,710
ultimately the way I think about houses

1186
00:50:28,770 --> 00:50:26,619
health is just a balance between what's

1187
00:50:31,799 --> 00:50:28,780
going on inside of yourself and what's

1188
00:50:34,020 --> 00:50:31,809
going on outside of yourself and so

1189
00:50:35,339 --> 00:50:34,030
finding that balance for you is going to

1190
00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:35,349
look different than it's going to look

1191
00:50:38,460 --> 00:50:36,730
for me with the tools that you're going

1192
00:50:41,780 --> 00:50:38,470
to use the approaches that you use the

1193
00:50:43,589 --> 00:50:41,790
way that you the way that you kind of

1194
00:50:45,150 --> 00:50:43,599
experience things is going to be

1195
00:50:46,859 --> 00:50:45,160
different these negative things is going

1196
00:50:48,809 --> 00:50:46,869
to be different so and I think it's

1197
00:50:53,099 --> 00:50:48,819
pretty clear that energy drinks and

1198
00:50:54,990 --> 00:50:53,109
alcohol are worse for for someone then i

1199
00:50:56,819 --> 00:50:55,000
would say marijuana usage but how do you

1200
00:50:58,290 --> 00:50:56,829
feel about marijuana usage in itself

1201
00:50:59,730 --> 00:50:58,300
like is that something that should be

1202
00:51:01,890 --> 00:50:59,740
totally avoided because i've heard

1203
00:51:05,730 --> 00:51:01,900
people say that it does have some kind

1204
00:51:08,370 --> 00:51:05,740
of cancer-fighting properties yeah

1205
00:51:10,789 --> 00:51:08,380
there's a book called marijuana gateway

1206
00:51:13,559 --> 00:51:10,799
to health that was just recently put out

1207
00:51:15,839 --> 00:51:13,569
and i purchased it i haven't read it yet

1208
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:15,849
but one of my colleagues and integrated

1209
00:51:23,579 --> 00:51:20,290
medicine his husband wrote it actually

1210
00:51:26,069 --> 00:51:23,589
and he it's especially an excellent book

1211
00:51:30,089 --> 00:51:26,079
and marijuana does have significant

1212
00:51:32,700 --> 00:51:30,099
medicinal benefit with regards to how

1213
00:51:34,980 --> 00:51:32,710
it's used it can all medicines the only

1214
00:51:39,660 --> 00:51:34,990
difference between medicine and a poison

1215
00:51:41,309 --> 00:51:39,670
is dose think so so how you use any any

1216
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:41,319
medicine or anything it's going to be

1217
00:51:47,430 --> 00:51:43,770
related to the dose and the setting and

1218
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:47,440
so you know it all depends on what your

1219
00:51:53,190 --> 00:51:49,690
goals are when your when you're using

1220
00:51:55,530 --> 00:51:53,200
anything basically so there well tell me

1221
00:51:57,329 --> 00:51:55,540
a little bit about these these group

1222
00:51:58,829 --> 00:51:57,339
programs that you and Heather do what

1223
00:52:02,010 --> 00:51:58,839
sort of results have you seen from

1224
00:52:04,289 --> 00:52:02,020
people really taking this seriously you

1225
00:52:06,180 --> 00:52:04,299
know and really kicking it into gear

1226
00:52:07,650 --> 00:52:06,190
because it is it takes it's going to

1227
00:52:09,720 --> 00:52:07,660
take a lot of work I mean I think I'm

1228
00:52:12,030 --> 00:52:09,730
ready to do it but what kind of results

1229
00:52:15,359 --> 00:52:12,040
have you seen any inspiring success

1230
00:52:18,029 --> 00:52:15,369
stories yeah I mean it's

1231
00:52:20,579 --> 00:52:18,039
you know one of the groups are based on

1232
00:52:23,009 --> 00:52:20,589
this foundation of just safe space which

1233
00:52:25,559 --> 00:52:23,019
safe space ultimately means that when we

1234
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:25,569
get together in a group basically nobody

1235
00:52:30,349 --> 00:52:27,970
knows better than anybody else what the

1236
00:52:32,730 --> 00:52:30,359
answer is for any other individuals so

1237
00:52:35,489 --> 00:52:32,740
and it's confidential so it's basically

1238
00:52:37,529 --> 00:52:35,499
a confidential holding of whatever comes

1239
00:52:41,069 --> 00:52:37,539
up without trying to fix it and that

1240
00:52:42,539 --> 00:52:41,079
type of space is vital in order for us

1241
00:52:45,390 --> 00:52:42,549
to be able to see things with new eyes

1242
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:45,400
because if if in the other piece I would

1243
00:52:50,309 --> 00:52:47,170
say is kind of letting go of those

1244
00:52:52,739 --> 00:52:50,319
expectations because the expectations

1245
00:52:54,839 --> 00:52:52,749
themselves can tend to kind of drag us

1246
00:52:57,059 --> 00:52:54,849
down and make it harder for us to be

1247
00:53:00,749 --> 00:52:57,069
patient with ourselves and with what's

1248
00:53:04,130 --> 00:53:00,759
the process and so what I've seen you

1249
00:53:07,170 --> 00:53:04,140
know it varies among individuals but I

1250
00:53:08,700 --> 00:53:07,180
anytime people ask me this I usually

1251
00:53:10,829 --> 00:53:08,710
think of the people that came in and

1252
00:53:13,349 --> 00:53:10,839
they just looked horrible and then they

1253
00:53:14,670 --> 00:53:13,359
leave and they the next a couple of

1254
00:53:18,660 --> 00:53:14,680
months afterwards they'd look like a

1255
00:53:21,329 --> 00:53:18,670
totally different person and and this is

1256
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:21,339
from people that I've seen it of course

1257
00:53:25,460 --> 00:53:23,410
and I can witness it myself but it's

1258
00:53:28,380 --> 00:53:25,470
more powerful when people come up to me

1259
00:53:30,359 --> 00:53:28,390
afterwards that know that person and

1260
00:53:33,599 --> 00:53:30,369
they say cos they'd look like what the

1261
00:53:35,190 --> 00:53:33,609
heck did you do you know and generally

1262
00:53:37,769 --> 00:53:35,200
the answer is I didn't do anything and

1263
00:53:40,499 --> 00:53:37,779
and that's the key to the process the

1264
00:53:44,099 --> 00:53:40,509
person is the key to the process and and

1265
00:53:47,370 --> 00:53:44,109
I would say the you know the the first

1266
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:47,380
piece of your of what you're what you

1267
00:53:53,220 --> 00:53:48,970
said was the most important one and that

1268
00:53:55,140 --> 00:53:53,230
is that you want to do it and the second

1269
00:53:57,180 --> 00:53:55,150
piece I think that it's going to take

1270
00:53:59,670 --> 00:53:57,190
time it's going to be hard and yeah it's

1271
00:54:01,200 --> 00:53:59,680
important to to dedicate yourself to

1272
00:54:07,349 --> 00:54:01,210
it's important to set aside some time

1273
00:54:09,900 --> 00:54:07,359
and to give it effort but usually this

1274
00:54:13,170 --> 00:54:09,910
type of work in my mind it tends up it

1275
00:54:18,630 --> 00:54:13,180
ends up kind of taking on a life of its

1276
00:54:21,559 --> 00:54:18,640
own and it doesn't mean it's easy but it

1277
00:54:24,809 --> 00:54:21,569
is something that tends to gain momentum

1278
00:54:27,089 --> 00:54:24,819
so the first step obviously the most

1279
00:54:29,070 --> 00:54:27,099
important step is to stop there's a

1280
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:29,080
there's a really good store

1281
00:54:33,690 --> 00:54:31,090
worried that I like to tell it's usually

1282
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:33,700
about all these stories or kind of start

1283
00:54:36,810 --> 00:54:35,170
the same way there's this enlightened

1284
00:54:38,190 --> 00:54:36,820
master and there's a group of students

1285
00:54:39,900 --> 00:54:38,200
that are with them and they're saying

1286
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:39,910
gosh you know tell us what plug tell us

1287
00:54:43,980 --> 00:54:41,770
what what we need to do to be

1288
00:54:45,660 --> 00:54:43,990
enlightened it on and the master says

1289
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:45,670
well okay I'll talk a little bit about

1290
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:48,610
it so I said there's a group of people

1291
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:50,770
and they're in the back of an airplane

1292
00:54:55,170 --> 00:54:52,930
and they've rented this airplane and

1293
00:54:57,390 --> 00:54:55,180
it's going across country and they're

1294
00:54:58,710 --> 00:54:57,400
they're playing a card game and there's

1295
00:55:00,620 --> 00:54:58,720
the pilot and there's this group of

1296
00:55:02,970 --> 00:55:00,630
people and their to be left alone and

1297
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:02,980
the group of people are sitting back

1298
00:55:07,860 --> 00:55:04,930
there playing the game and and the

1299
00:55:10,170 --> 00:55:07,870
kicker to this game is that if you lose

1300
00:55:12,930 --> 00:55:10,180
the game if you run out of chips in the

1301
00:55:16,020 --> 00:55:12,940
game you've got to jump out of the

1302
00:55:19,380 --> 00:55:16,030
airplane without a parachute and so the

1303
00:55:21,540 --> 00:55:19,390
students all saying cuz wow that we get

1304
00:55:24,570 --> 00:55:21,550
it you know you really need to value

1305
00:55:26,700 --> 00:55:24,580
life or else gosh it's is not that's the

1306
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:26,710
most important thing valuing life and

1307
00:55:30,180 --> 00:55:28,810
the master says well you know that's

1308
00:55:32,940 --> 00:55:30,190
kind of one way of looking at it but

1309
00:55:36,420 --> 00:55:32,950
just think for a minute about how

1310
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:36,430
engaged in that game those people are

1311
00:55:42,540 --> 00:55:40,450
going to be and so it's really that

1312
00:55:44,430 --> 00:55:42,550
paying attention and that's one of the

1313
00:55:47,910 --> 00:55:44,440
definitions that this guy Jon kabat-zinn

1314
00:55:49,590 --> 00:55:47,920
gives who founded mindfulness based

1315
00:55:52,950 --> 00:55:49,600
stress reduction practice at the

1316
00:55:55,370 --> 00:55:52,960
University of Massachusetts he said that

1317
00:55:59,700 --> 00:55:55,380
mindfulness is paying attention on

1318
00:56:02,190 --> 00:55:59,710
purpose non-judgmentally to what's going

1319
00:56:04,590 --> 00:56:02,200
on in the present moment as though your

1320
00:56:06,900 --> 00:56:04,600
life depended on it and that as though

1321
00:56:09,780 --> 00:56:06,910
your life depended on a part and i think

1322
00:56:11,820 --> 00:56:09,790
is an important part yeah because our

1323
00:56:13,710 --> 00:56:11,830
life does depend on ultimately because

1324
00:56:17,460 --> 00:56:13,720
the only time we can experience our life

1325
00:56:23,550 --> 00:56:17,470
is right now and right now is going to

1326
00:56:26,610 --> 00:56:23,560
[\h__\h] sometimes and and that's okay it's

1327
00:56:28,590 --> 00:56:26,620
okay to be with that it's rather than

1328
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:28,600
put it aside and say I'll just deal with

1329
00:56:32,250 --> 00:56:30,370
it later you know and then let me get on

1330
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:32,260
to something that's more preferable you

1331
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:35,530
know so we are getting down to but I

1332
00:56:40,170 --> 00:56:37,210
want to ask you a couple of questions

1333
00:56:42,180 --> 00:56:40,180
more about stress really like I know

1334
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:42,190
it's a big factor it's kind of an

1335
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:44,410
then but it clearly has effects on our

1336
00:56:48,930 --> 00:56:46,810
health and our well-being but what are

1337
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:48,940
some good stress management tips for

1338
00:56:54,900 --> 00:56:52,930
today's modern American society well in

1339
00:56:58,950 --> 00:56:54,910
the book we'd like to go over a process

1340
00:57:00,900 --> 00:56:58,960
that p q r SS like i said everything in

1341
00:57:03,780 --> 00:57:00,910
medicine has to have initials having to

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00:57:06,690 --> 00:57:03,790
have some meaning right so so the P

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00:57:10,110 --> 00:57:06,700
stands for practice finding a time at

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00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:10,120
least once a day to practice stopping it

1345
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:11,890
can just be for a breath if you want to

1346
00:57:15,720 --> 00:57:13,930
extend it it can be for 20-30 minutes it

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00:57:17,970 --> 00:57:15,730
would be spaced throughout the day but

1348
00:57:19,410 --> 00:57:17,980
finding time to cultivate an awareness

1349
00:57:22,740 --> 00:57:19,420
of what's going on right here and right

1350
00:57:24,330 --> 00:57:22,750
now that practice so when we're able to

1351
00:57:26,460 --> 00:57:24,340
be right here and right now we were able

1352
00:57:29,220 --> 00:57:26,470
to stop then we're able to question

1353
00:57:31,470 --> 00:57:29,230
what's going on right to be inquisitive

1354
00:57:33,180 --> 00:57:31,480
about it rather than letting the process

1355
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:33,190
drive us there's another really cool

1356
00:57:36,300 --> 00:57:34,570
story that I like to think of when I

1357
00:57:38,430 --> 00:57:36,310
think about that and that is a little

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00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:38,440
kid standing in the middle of a town and

1359
00:57:41,670 --> 00:57:39,970
this guy comes up on this beautiful

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00:57:42,990 --> 00:57:41,680
horse and he's dressed in this princely

1361
00:57:44,850 --> 00:57:43,000
often he says hey mister where are you

1362
00:57:47,550 --> 00:57:44,860
going and the guy says I have no idea

1363
00:57:49,980 --> 00:57:47,560
half the horse and so that's kind of

1364
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:49,990
like what happens with stress with our

1365
00:57:54,210 --> 00:57:52,570
mind with our thoughts with our anything

1366
00:57:56,010 --> 00:57:54,220
that's going on that's bringing a stress

1367
00:57:58,410 --> 00:57:56,020
is that it kind of has a momentum of its

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00:58:01,980 --> 00:57:58,420
own so being able to stop and question

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00:58:04,260 --> 00:58:01,990
then allows us to kind of grab the reins

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00:58:06,630 --> 00:58:04,270
ourselves and when we question we can

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00:58:09,180 --> 00:58:06,640
then do that first are we can reframe

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00:58:11,460 --> 00:58:09,190
the situation we can look at it from a

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00:58:13,530 --> 00:58:11,470
new and different perspective and when

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00:58:16,530 --> 00:58:13,540
we reframe something instead of

1375
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:16,540
responded instead of reacting based on

1376
00:58:21,180 --> 00:58:19,570
what we did in the past or what we

1377
00:58:23,610 --> 00:58:21,190
anticipate is going to happen in the

1378
00:58:25,500 --> 00:58:23,620
future if we don't do X Y Z we can then

1379
00:58:29,850 --> 00:58:25,510
choose to do the second arm which is

1380
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:29,860
respond respond in a way that is going

1381
00:58:34,650 --> 00:58:31,930
to increase our ability to be balanced

1382
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:34,660
rather than responding or reacting in a

1383
00:58:40,860 --> 00:58:36,570
way that just kind of is a habitual

1384
00:58:43,110 --> 00:58:40,870
robotic action and then once we do that

1385
00:58:45,270 --> 00:58:43,120
go through the practice and the

1386
00:58:48,090 --> 00:58:45,280
questioning and reframing and responding

1387
00:58:50,610 --> 00:58:48,100
that is kind of the easy part the hard

1388
00:58:53,130 --> 00:58:50,620
part is this is the last part the S part

1389
00:58:55,829 --> 00:58:53,140
and that is the surrender part

1390
00:58:57,660 --> 00:58:55,839
and again being a red-blooded American

1391
00:58:59,250 --> 00:58:57,670
and likes to strive and make my own

1392
00:59:01,370 --> 00:58:59,260
future and I'm going to do this and I'm

1393
00:59:03,509 --> 00:59:01,380
going to make that happen in da da da da

1394
00:59:07,049 --> 00:59:03,519
surrendering and realizing that you know

1395
00:59:10,559 --> 00:59:07,059
what I've done my best I've gone through

1396
00:59:12,900 --> 00:59:10,569
I've chosen to respond in this way and I

1397
00:59:15,420 --> 00:59:12,910
cannot totally control the outcome I've

1398
00:59:17,549 --> 00:59:15,430
gotta let it go and that that to me is

1399
00:59:20,490 --> 00:59:17,559
the most that's the part where I

1400
00:59:22,470 --> 00:59:20,500
typically find myself when I'm out of

1401
00:59:24,089 --> 00:59:22,480
balance I found myself trying to control

1402
00:59:26,549 --> 00:59:24,099
what's going on in the future and I'd

1403
00:59:28,980 --> 00:59:26,559
find myself kind of get a lot of

1404
00:59:31,589 --> 00:59:28,990
shadowboxing with that controlling side

1405
00:59:36,839 --> 00:59:31,599
of myself mm-hmm but if so that's just

1406
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:36,849
one in a nutshell a process that can be

1407
00:59:40,349 --> 00:59:38,410
used to help manage stress there's a lot

1408
00:59:42,630 --> 00:59:40,359
of great stress management tools there's

1409
00:59:43,890 --> 00:59:42,640
again focusing on the breath just

1410
00:59:46,710 --> 00:59:43,900
learning to stop there's things like

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00:59:48,269 --> 00:59:46,720
massage things like again all these

1412
00:59:52,529 --> 00:59:48,279
things are linked you know so physical

1413
00:59:56,370 --> 00:59:52,539
activity can help with stress any number

1414
00:59:57,380 --> 00:59:56,380
of techniques guided imagery met

1415
00:59:59,220 --> 00:59:57,390
different forms of meditation

1416
01:00:01,440 --> 00:59:59,230
progressive muscle relaxant and

1417
01:00:03,660 --> 01:00:01,450
relaxation is a great way to do it so

1418
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:03,670
just kind of alternatively tensing and

1419
01:00:08,730 --> 01:00:06,250
relaxing your muscles writing down

1420
01:00:10,109 --> 01:00:08,740
things in a journal just writing it's

1421
01:00:12,299 --> 01:00:10,119
kind of taking a journal and just

1422
01:00:13,859 --> 01:00:12,309
freehand writing about a stressful

1423
01:00:17,099 --> 01:00:13,869
experience or writing about just

1424
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:17,109
anything can be very stress reducing so

1425
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:20,130
and then again there are also some

1426
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:22,210
botanicals that can help with stress

1427
01:00:27,299 --> 01:00:24,730
management stress reduction so and those

1428
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:27,309
would be the like the chamomile tea and

1429
01:00:31,049 --> 01:00:28,930
the valerian root you're talking about I

1430
01:00:34,319 --> 01:00:31,059
would yeah I think those are two pretty

1431
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:34,329
good ones yeah yeah hmm yeah because

1432
01:00:39,299 --> 01:00:36,490
it's it it just seems so tough because

1433
01:00:40,859 --> 01:00:39,309
stress in itself if someone's under a

1434
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:40,869
lot of it they don't feel like they can

1435
01:00:46,859 --> 01:00:43,690
take the time how to stop but it is

1436
01:00:48,839 --> 01:00:46,869
exactly what they need you know yeah so

1437
01:00:53,039 --> 01:00:48,849
it it gets to be one of these things

1438
01:00:55,140 --> 01:00:53,049
where it can become a cycle that you

1439
01:00:57,329 --> 01:00:55,150
know we all tend to live on a plateau or

1440
01:00:59,490 --> 01:00:57,339
for the most part and then when we fall

1441
01:01:02,789 --> 01:00:59,500
into illness is usually when we've gone

1442
01:01:05,430 --> 01:01:02,799
through a cycle where we just keep not

1443
01:01:06,510 --> 01:01:05,440
paying attention to what's going on when

1444
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:06,520
we're out of balance and it

1445
01:01:11,550 --> 01:01:10,090
we do that long enough then we're going

1446
01:01:13,290 --> 01:01:11,560
to remain out of balance and ultimately

1447
01:01:16,050 --> 01:01:13,300
we're going to develop a disease and

1448
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:16,060
then the disease makes you stop so the

1449
01:01:20,700 --> 01:01:18,850
question is can we learn how to find

1450
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:20,710
those little imbalances before we have

1451
01:01:25,260 --> 01:01:22,090
to deal with the fact that we've got a

1452
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:25,270
disease that's making a stop right well

1453
01:01:29,670 --> 01:01:27,090
that about does it for me hopefully

1454
01:01:31,110 --> 01:01:29,680
there's something that people can take

1455
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:31,120
away from this whether it's dealing with

1456
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:35,050
the stress or changing your diet but is

1457
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:36,970
there anything else you or miss reader

1458
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:38,290
working on that you'd like to share with

1459
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:41,410
the people yeah we have a website that's

1460
01:01:49,950 --> 01:01:46,410
sustainable wellness online.com and

1461
01:01:53,220 --> 01:01:49,960
that's got some good resources on it

1462
01:01:55,860 --> 01:01:53,230
some good information I would recommend

1463
01:01:57,930 --> 01:01:55,870
that you pick up the book and and you

1464
01:02:00,030 --> 01:01:57,940
can either read it on your own or start

1465
01:02:03,090 --> 01:02:00,040
a group of just a couple of friends that

1466
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:03,100
you can meet once weekly to go through

1467
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:06,610
the eight steps together you can ask us

1468
01:02:10,410 --> 01:02:08,410
questions online there's a little

1469
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:10,420
section that says ask dr. Matt and

1470
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:12,610
Heather we're also developing an app

1471
01:02:19,590 --> 01:02:16,210
that will consist of the sum of the

1472
01:02:21,300 --> 01:02:19,600
meditations that are in each part of the

1473
01:02:22,740 --> 01:02:21,310
group such that you can instead of

1474
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:22,750
having to read them you can actually

1475
01:02:28,050 --> 01:02:25,450
hear Heather and I going through those

1476
01:02:31,610 --> 01:02:28,060
meditations so that'd be a nice tool to

1477
01:02:34,020 --> 01:02:31,620
use from a standpoint of using the book

1478
01:02:36,450 --> 01:02:34,030
so those are the main things I think

1479
01:02:38,730 --> 01:02:36,460
yeah well thanks a bunch doc I mean I

1480
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:38,740
appreciate your time and the education I

1481
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:40,570
do encourage everyone look at the book

1482
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:43,570
it is it's a great read that it asks you

1483
01:02:48,390 --> 01:02:45,010
a lot of questions you have to think

1484
01:02:50,910 --> 01:02:48,400
about there's a fun little personality

1485
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:50,920
test that you know had a different

1486
01:02:55,590 --> 01:02:52,570
result than I thought I would have it

1487
01:02:58,890 --> 01:02:55,600
tells you about you know what your main

1488
01:03:00,960 --> 01:02:58,900
vices are you know for your personality

1489
01:03:02,940 --> 01:03:00,970
or you're in your virtues and your ego

1490
01:03:04,410 --> 01:03:02,950
fixation it's it's pretty cool it's

1491
01:03:06,330 --> 01:03:04,420
interesting so I encourage everyone to

1492
01:03:08,310 --> 01:03:06,340
check it out sustainable wellness and

1493
01:03:12,300 --> 01:03:08,320
integrative approach to transform your

1494
01:03:13,710 --> 01:03:12,310
mind body and spirit and make sure you

1495
01:03:17,850 --> 01:03:13,720
eat your spinach is there anything else

1496
01:03:19,730 --> 01:03:17,860
to add Matt that sounds great great God

1497
01:03:21,710 --> 01:03:19,740
thank you so much for four

1498
01:03:23,570 --> 01:03:21,720
talking with me today and wish you the

1499
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:23,580
best of luck all right thank you let me

1500
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:25,050
know let me know how it goes over the

1501
01:03:29,950 --> 01:03:27,330
next eight weeks all right I'll do that

1502
01:03:32,690 --> 01:03:29,960
stay well oh you could pick i right

1503
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:32,700
there it is people sustainable wellness

1504
01:03:36,470 --> 01:03:35,130
and health with dr. Mann member in other

1505
01:03:38,510 --> 01:03:36,480
news thanks for all the support in the

1506
01:03:41,330 --> 01:03:38,520
podcast Awards will know in January of

1507
01:03:43,310 --> 01:03:41,340
th e is worthy also the fun folks over

1508
01:03:45,380 --> 01:03:43,320
at tuk and toke have reached out to me

1509
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:45,390
and the THC audience the founder tuck

1510
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:48,330
and toke smoking apparatus came up with

1511
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:50,490
a design which is like a hookah hose on

1512
01:03:55,850 --> 01:03:53,730
the end of enclosed metal bowl he was

1513
01:03:57,620 --> 01:03:55,860
trying to smoke on a ski lift not easy

1514
01:03:59,780 --> 01:03:57,630
with gloves and wind so he created the

1515
01:04:02,210 --> 01:03:59,790
talking toque sort of a fun way to smoke

1516
01:04:04,100 --> 01:04:02,220
regardless of if you need to be discreet

1517
01:04:05,990 --> 01:04:04,110
or not they were cool enough to send a

1518
01:04:08,390 --> 01:04:06,000
couple out to me I've been digging it

1519
01:04:11,420 --> 01:04:08,400
they're fifteen bucks at tuck the letter

1520
01:04:13,609 --> 01:04:11,430
n toke calm and if you use the coupon

1521
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:13,619
code higher side you'll get five bucks

1522
01:04:18,020 --> 01:04:15,690
off a cool little ten dollar piece for

1523
01:04:19,910 --> 01:04:18,030
the holidays or something for a stocking

1524
01:04:22,670 --> 01:04:19,920
stuffer and you're supporting a man's

1525
01:04:24,290 --> 01:04:22,680
small business which is important you

1526
01:04:25,490 --> 01:04:24,300
know as always check out conspiracies

1527
01:04:27,410 --> 01:04:25,500
that net for all your conspiracy

1528
01:04:29,359 --> 01:04:27,420
clothing needs we have a new design the

1529
01:04:31,670 --> 01:04:29,369
corporate sheep heads very [\h__\h] cool

1530
01:04:33,109 --> 01:04:31,680
check it out enough from me here's a

1531
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:33,119
great song to get you started on the

1532
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:34,890
path to health and wellness while you

1533
01:04:40,910 --> 01:04:37,770
reflect on your life listen to let me

1534
01:04:42,620 --> 01:04:40,920
sleep by night lightning keep your pimp

1535
01:04:44,599 --> 01:04:42,630
and strong get on your [\h__\h]

1536
01:04:57,510 --> 01:04:44,609
wellness chase and i'll catch you next

1537
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:04,539
hugs

1538
01:05:04,549 --> 01:05:09,079
Oh

1539
01:05:09,089 --> 01:05:12,670
it's calm

1540
01:06:51,160 --> 01:05:53,599
Oh

1541
01:06:51,170 --> 01:06:59,350
you

1542
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:07,279
son

1543
01:07:07,289 --> 01:07:23,520
so